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1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:22 am
by Eric L
http://www.timesunion.com/default/artic ... 352000.php

"A 1,000-megawatt underground electric transmission line from Quebec to New York City may be closer to becoming a reality as negotiations with governmental and environmental groups have taken on a more positive tone.

The proposed $2 billion project — which has the financial backing of private equity giant The Blackstone Group of New York City — involves two cables, each five inches in diameter, buried under Lake Champlain and the Hudson River, with some of the 330-mile route along railroad beds."

What do you guys think?

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:15 am
by Surprise
Better than in the air....No Ice storms, no Hurricane. No ruined mountain views. My 350 ft lead for house power has been buried since 1985.

The country need energy and it has to get there somehow. Take your pick. JMO. Randy

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:29 am
by WildFisherWoman
I dont think this would ever go through. I think too much enviro hype etc. However alternatives are needed. Buried is better but would be a massive expense to fix it when it breaks. IMO

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:12 pm
by Black Ghost (Ken)
Watch your cannon balls when trolking out there

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:03 pm
by Reel Delight (Walt)
Given the alternatives I do think this project will get full approval to go through. Putting a cable or two at the bottom of the lake compared to being above ground where electrical magnetic waves can harm us; or to run it through farm pastures, forests, mountains and etc etc & etc. The enviro hypes will allow it. Now if you want a new coal burning power plant or nuclear reactor... no no no!

Just my opinion..

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:22 pm
by vtfishin
I hope a large fraction of the $2 billion goes toward the fishery.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:20 am
by raz
I'm not so sure it would really create a problem. Like the article mentions, "Similar cable technology has been used for decades to transmit power across large bodies of water like the English Channel."

I think if the cables are laid in the right area, with proper mapping and planning, they will become buried in silt and no one will ever know they're there.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:30 am
by raz
fishing eagle (Walt) wrote: Now if you want a new coal burning power plant or nuclear reactor... no no no!
Daily, I drive by many fields that are BLACK right now with a given substance that has been spread on them. Rather than a fossil fuel burning plant or a nuke, (or maybe even buried power lines under the lake) I'd rather see acres of photovoltaic panels producing power to feed our energy hungry lifestyle/civilization. (And the jobs it could create!)
Oh--some of that black substance is so close to moving surface water....well, we know where it ends up. In the lowest part of the Champlain Valley, Our Playground.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:24 pm
by Reel Delight (Walt)
I do not understand why som many people are against solar yards and wind mills. Both are a great way to produce electric energy. I also think a wind mill sitting out in a field is kind of interesting if not attractive, yet there are people fighting against them.

Maybe the wind mill might hurt a duck as it flies by? LOL

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:29 pm
by Matt
fishing eagle (Walt) wrote:I do not understand why som many people are against solar yards and wind mills. Both are a great way to produce electric energy. I also think a wind mill sitting out in a field is kind of interesting if not attractive, yet there are people fighting against them.

Maybe the wind mill might hurt a duck as it flies by? LOL
I agree, I firmly believe fields of wind mills and solar yards is the way to go. I remember seeing an article in the newspaper about a town somewhere not wanting to put windmills on top of a hill or mountain because it ruined the "beauty" of the area. How a field full of clean and renewable energy is not beautiful is beyond me! :lol:

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:31 pm
by raz
Matt wrote: How a field full of clean and renewable energy is not beautiful is beyond me! :lol:
Well stated.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:12 pm
by drachma
I gues I won't need my black box anymore. I wonder if they could dail in the range for salmon.

Michael

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:08 pm
by WildFisherWoman
Save the Lowell Mtn Range! :D

If we really want to save the fishery we need to harness every last drop of cow plop and convert that into energy = less runoff!

The hype of saving scenic vistas etc from wind generators is only short term. Those opposed will die in x years and the new generation over the course of many years will know no different because they were brought up in an era of new technology and will embrace the so called scars of the landscape.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:30 pm
by Surprise
My home & camp Both run on 100% COW POWER & I pay 4 cents more a kw to support it. CVPS has had this program for a number of years now. Foster Brothers in Middlebury and Blue Spruce Farm in Bridport put it into the grid. They use the Poop when demethaned and dried for bedding and compost.

Re: 1,000-megawatt electric line under Lake Champlain?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:23 pm
by Salmoneye
WildFisherWoman wrote: If we really want to save the fishery we need to harness every last drop of cow plop and convert that into energy = less runoff!
And then the Farmers can simply buy Dow and Monsanto chemical fertilizer for their hay and silage needs, and there won't be any evil "runoff" from that smelly manure...

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