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Greenhorn
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I am not a lure maker, but I want to change some of there hooks on my lures. I have a tough time getting the treble hooks out of the salmon I catch without some damage. I am considering replacing the treble hooks with single hooks, but I have a couple of questions.

First, will changing to a single hook affect the action of the lures?

Second, I am having a hard time locating straight shank hooks with eyes large enough to move freely on the ring. Do any of you lure makers know where I could find some #6 or #4 hooks like the ones on the Needlefish lures?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff
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gerry'stackle.com has a good selection.
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Search open eye siwash hooks.and you might find what your looking for.

I think most common is a size 1 hook for the 2-1/4 sized lures. Those hooks you are looking for are out there

Lots of info on the site regarding action and changing hooks. I will say that on michigan stinger scorpion & speedy shiners I run trebbles. Almost all others I run singles.
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I run size 4 open eye siwash, which are harder to find in shops. Size 2 is what most folks use. I prefer size 4 on the small spoons and get fewer eye-hooked fish (I release most of 'em). I get mine here: http://www.fishusa.com/product/Gamakats ... wash-Hooks
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I think a single hook is always better as far as less damage to fish and the hook up factor I think is actually better. If you stay within a an appropriate size hook for the size and weight of lure you should be fine. Siwash type hooks are what you are looking for, size 1 or 1/0 are the most common found on lures from 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 " long lures. If you google the siwash hook many sites will appear by most of the major brands. Tamiron.com (Honey bee lures) web site has a lot of videos and info on how his lures are effected by changing the way you connect the lure to your line, same goes for the hook size and weight, that will give you some good things to consider.
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FYI If the needle fish is the smaller size it would most likely be a #2 or 4 size hook. Siwash hooks have a larger "ring" on the end so it will move freely on the split ring of the lure. They are usually a bit longer in the shank too. Mustad has a "salmon lure" hook too but they usually start at the larger 2/0 hook for larger size spoons.
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Thanks for all the replays. This site is a great resource. I will check out the recommended sites.

Good luck this weekend,

Jeff
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So I checked out some of the siwash hooks. The open eye hooks have a small gap between the end of the bend on the eye and the shank. They also make a closed eye hook. It would seem like the closed eye hooks would be better unless it also produces a smaller eye for the split ring. Do you know if the closed eye hooks have a smaller eye than the open eye hooks?
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Greenhorn wrote:So I checked out some of the siwash hooks. The open eye hooks have a small gap between the end of the bend on the eye and the shank. They also make a closed eye hook. It would seem like the closed eye hooks would be better unless it also produces a smaller eye for the split ring. Do you know if the closed eye hooks have a smaller eye than the open eye hooks?
The open eye hooks are made to be big enough to move freely after you clamp them closed to install them. They work great
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Reelax wrote:The open eye hooks are made to be big enough to move freely after you clamp them closed to install them. They work great
Yup^^, they're a breeze to switch out with pliers.
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Well I got some of the Siwash open eye hooks and they work great! It was easy to switch out all of my treble hooks. Now I need to get back on the water to see how the lures work and see if I miss less fish. Thanks to all for the help.
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also try CaptainHook discount warehouse
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